Wednesday, August 17, 2011

Gay Marriage


The New York State government recently legalized gay marriage.

Male homosexuality is about as unhealthy as heroin usage. Nevertheless, our state government has decided to celebrate it, apparently for no other reason than to demonstrate their sympathy for a minority group and to emphasize their rejection of the Bible, which prohibits sodomy. If people die, that's just collateral damage.

Great work guys. This may lower costs for Social Security and Medicare, but then don't forget about the higher health care costs of male homosexuals.

24 comments:

ksil said...

the bible tells us a lot of things are prohibited. why do you take issue with this one prohibition?

further, what if someone does not believe in the bible? how can you force that person to adhere to your rules? how would you respond if someone else decided you should be bound by THEIR laws?

jewish philosopher said...

They do. Why can't I buy heroin?

ksil said...

thats not a religous law

jewish philosopher said...

You see my point is that many atheists have criticized monotheists for prohibiting sodomy. Why would God cruely prevent two consenting adults from loving each other? Aren't sodomy laws, universal until 1970, just as unjust and cruel as anti-black or anti-Jewish laws?

Today we in fact, 40 years and hundreds of thousands of deaths later, can see clearly the Torah's remarkable wisdom. However the atheists march on in denial, revealing their own irrationality.

ksil said...

deaths? aare you rambling about AIDS?

jewish philosopher said...

Mainly.

ksil said...

lol. keep up the good work! you are a light unto the nations!!

hehehe

jewish philosopher said...

About 300,000 dead so far.

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/BlogPostView.aspx?id=dbe1e5c4-f5c7-4c60-9216-90bb3dd29abd

Hope you'll soon follow them. Lol

Anonymous said...

Homosexuality is prohibited for Jews but it is not prohibited for non-jews. This is simiar to the prohibition of eating shellfish for Jews but permissible for non-Jews. So, clearly the aids virus couldn't be god's vengance, since non-jews may engage in sodomy to their hearts content.

jewish philosopher said...

Sodomy is prohibited to Gentiles.

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Noahide_laws#Prohibition_against_sexual_immorality

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Anonymous said...

jewish philosopher said...
Sodomy is prohibited to Gentiles.
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Clearly, that prohibition was constructed by the rabbis. But torah true jews recognize that god did not mean to include sodomy or incest or almost any torah-prohibited sexual infraction.
Thus, you are wrong. Gentiles may engage in sodomy as much as they wish without any fear of retribution.

jewish philosopher said...

"Gentiles may engage in sodomy as much as they wish without any fear of retribution."

I must disagree. You know, "sodomy" comes from the name "Sodom". If you are familiar with Genesis 19

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0119.htm

you will notice that the people of Sodom, who were gentiles by the way, seemed to received a little retribution.

Jeff said...

The biblical story in Sdom seems to refer to violent sexual assault, ie rape. Not specifically the homosexual relations.

jewish philosopher said...

In any case, the Talmudic opinion is that even mutually agreed sodomy is prohibited even for Gentiles. Today we know the medical wisdom of that.

Alex said...

Y'know, all the great Lithuanian rabbis of today rail against lashon hara, and yet you spend all your time railing about different toevahs. Why not do a few posts on lashon hara. You have never done so.

jewish philosopher said...

The reason why is because the stated objective of this blog is "to promote Orthodox Judaism and to critique other ideologies, in particular atheism".

Unfortunately, many atheists have criticized monotheists for prohibiting sodomy. Why would God cruely prevent two consenting adults from loving each other? Aren't anti-sodomy laws just as unjust and cruel as anti-black or anti-Jewish laws?

In other words atheists use the Torah's anti-sodomy law to brand Orthodox Jews as insane bigots. Regarding anti-gossip laws or anti-pork laws or Sabbath anti-work laws, this isn't the case. 

Therefore i feel the need to point out that today we in fact, 40 years and hundreds of thousands of deaths later, can see clearly the Torah's remarkable wisdom. The anti-sodomy law in fact validates the Torah.

ksil said...

"use the Torah's anti-sodomy law to brand Orthodox Jews as insane bigots"

correct!

first true thing you've written in ages!

yasher koach!

jewish philosopher said...

In that case, people who outlaw heroin (meaning every government in the world) are also insane bigots. How dare you interfere with my love affair with narcotics? We need Junky Pride Parades, graced with government leaders!

Mr. Cohen said...

Babylonian Talmud, tractate Sotah, page 13B, 15th thick line on page:

Rab taught:
Gabriel [the angel] emasculated Potiphar because he wanted to sin with Joseph.

Mr. Cohen said...

Babylonian Talmud, tractate Gittin, page 57B:
400 Jewish boys and girls were captured by the Romans and were being taken to Rome on a ship. They all committed suicide by jumping into the sea.

RASHI explains: The boys did this to avoid being forced into homosexuality and the girls did it to avoid becoming concubines to Gentile men.

Bill said...

Dear Sir:

I wish to reply to your recent post concerning the legalization of same sex marriage in New york. The issue is of especial personal significane as a frum gay Yid.

Firstly, I concur that the enactment of this initiative was largely actuated by empathy with a perceived oppressed minority. However, history has demonstrated that efforts to aid often exacerbate existing problems or create new concerns. As a Negro, I observe daily with sadness and frustration the injurious impact on the Negro community by programs andd pllicies that were designed to promote the uplift of my race (e.g. civil rights laws, affirmative measures, social welfare mechanisms).

Secondly, the legalization of same sex marriage communicates to the most impressionable members of our society (children and adolescents) the permissibility of homosexuality. This is the primary objective of gay askanim: the acceptance of homosexuality by the general community. Parents, educators and religious leaders, both Jewish and Gentile, must intensify their efforts to insulate their charges against gay propaganda.

Thirdly, I disagree that the appropriate response is to prohibit gay marriage. As one who would characterize himself as a liberterian I oppose government efforts to regulate the activities of consenting adults, unless such activity does injury or damage to others. For that reason I support the decriminalization of such enterprises as prostitution, pornography and narcotics. Likewise, marriage is not within the purview of the government. Civil marriage should be abolished. Until relatively recently, marriage was within the jurisdiction of religious authorities and that should be resumed. I shoul not require the permission of the state to marry, just as I should not require the leave of the state to drive a motor vehicle, form a corporation, practice medicine, own a gun or operate a hot dog stand.

Lommer deleben Moshiach.
Yours faithfully,
Bill

Anonymous said...

Wow. Well done, sir. I can just tell that you are writing this because you really care about the health of people. And not because you're trying to force people to live according to your insane fundamental beliefs about an imaginary guy in the sky and an old book he supposedly endorses.

Who cares if people have to be routinely discriminated against because they are doing something as beautiful and pure as wanting to marry the person they TRULY love? As long as a couple less people get AIDS. And that's all you care about, isn't it?

I am actually disgusted by you.

jewish philosopher said...

"an imaginary guy in the sky"

Better than the imaginary magic evolution fairy.

I don't think that legitimatizing and sanctifying sodomy makes more sense than doing so for heroin. Where are the Junkie Pride Parades? Don't you know that addiction is hereditary? They're born that way.

By the way, how proud are you of the black HIV holocaust?

http://www.torahphilosophy.com/2011/12/crime-of-century-aids-orphans-thanks.html