Tuesday, July 26, 2011

Counter Atheism Activity


[it's not OK]

One thing which I think has raised the most eyebrows about my blogging is that not only have I written articles supporting and promoting Judaism, however I have also done a lot of writing critiquing atheism and sometimes even leaving very critical comments on atheist blogs. Not only am I trying to advocate Judaism, however I am also doing everything possible to discredit atheism.

This has sometimes come at great personal cost. I have, for example, been fired from my job and expelled from nursing school.

This is, however, hardly unprecedented.

In Israel, the Yad L'achim organization for decades has done counter missionary work, trying to diminish the influence of Christian missionaries in Israel. Activists have sometimes been beaten, sued and complaints have been made to the US State Department. When doing anti-intermarriage work, Yad L'achim members even risk their lives to save Jews.

All this work is done apparently with full ultra-orthodox rabbinical support.

Every "Jewish skeptic" writing on the Internet is no different than a "Messianic Jew" handing out pamphlets at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Surely, everything possible must be done to discourage these scoundrels who seek to corrupt their fellow Jews.

58 comments:

Baruch Pelta said...

"This has sometimes come at great personal cost. I have, for example, been fired from my job and expelled from nursing school."
According to the letter you link to, you were thrown out of your job because of verbal remarks deemed to constitute sexual harassment.

You seem to often have a different understanding of events than others. I seem to recall that your own mom allegedly wrote to Luke Ford to dispute your view of your family.

Baruch Pelta
postdogma.com

jewish philosopher said...

"According to the letter you link to"

Check that out again.

"your own mom allegedly wrote to Luke Ford"

Of course when a parent denies child abuse that just settles the matter.

Baruch Pelta said...

Check that out again.
It says, "...we received complaints from several students about your inappropriate comments in the school setting which we deem to constitute sexual harassment."

Of course when a parent denies child abuse that just settles the matter.
Please don't falsify what I write. That's not what I wrote. I've just noticed a pattern (chazaka) of you differing with the understanding of general people when it comes to specific events, such as your getting kicked out of school or leaving home. By the way, by "child abuse," do you mean your allegedly being kicked out of your house? Because that was the only allegation I saw in your original statement.

Baruch
postdogma.com

jewish philosopher said...

"Check that out again."

Do you believe the gun accusation too? It might have been an invisible gun, only visible to lesbians.

"I've just noticed a pattern (chazaka) of you differing with the understanding of general people when it comes to specific events, such as your getting kicked out of school or leaving home."

As you grow older, you may find this is a common pattern when two or more people have a dispute. "he said/she said". Not uncommon.

"By the way, by "child abuse," do you mean your allegedly being kicked out of your house?"

Apparently that was endangering the welfare of a child.

http://law.onecle.com/new-york/penal/PEN0260.10_260.10.html

jewish philosopher said...

While we're on the topic of my adopted parents, you may want to ask them about my adopted brother, and only other adopted sibling, Doug. He has never held a job since, soon after I left home, thanks to their abuse, he began suffering from sever schizophrenia. Those were quite some model parents.

Alex said...

"In Israel, the Yad L'achim organization ... have sometimes been beaten, sued, ... risk their lives to save Jews... All this work is done apparently with full ultra-orthodox rabbinical support."

One day, JP, I hope to see that your blog meets with full ultra-Orthodox support.

Or any, for that matter.

jewish philosopher said...

"One day, JP, I hope to see that your blog meets with full ultra-Orthodox support."

To the best of my knowledge it does. Few ultra-orthodox rabbis have Internet access, however those who I have discussed my blog with have no problem with it. Why would they? I am merely doing what Yad Lachim does.

And I cannot name those rabbis without getting their permission.

ksil said...

funny, you claim that kicking a child out of the house could consitute child abuse or "Endangering the welfare of a child"

thats exactly what you advocate if your kids dont agree with your extreme views!! LOL

hopefull, those jews fo jesus continue their prasiworthy actions of trying to save all those jewish souls at the kotel - god bless them. freedom of religion! yea!

jewish philosopher said...

"that's exactly what you advocate"

Where? Lol

Jeff said...

Do you really think that you are doing "holy work"?

Your posts have probably not convinced one single skeptic or atheist, or potential one. You're nothing like Yad L'achim, who have a track record of success at what they do.

So all your blog boils down to is a mouthpiece for expressing offensive opinions and comments and getting you into trouble. Not a very effective method.

I would say that this is dysfunctional, rather than idealistic. Kind of like an addiction.

jewish philosopher said...

"probably not convinced one single skeptic"

With dozens of people each day, from all over the world, reading my blog, I wonder how you would know that. Sounds like you're doing some wishful thinking. Like all drug users know the "war on drugs" is a "total waste". Sure.

Jeff said...

1. I think that blogs in general don't change people's deeply held religious or political opinions. People read what they want to read.

2. I would say that the burden of proof is on you to show that you "save" people, rather than me that you don't. Who's wishful thinking? In any case, there's free speech, its you're bed, sleep in it, you're paying the price.

I would welcome any reader out there to comment, who can attest to being "saved" by this blog from atheism, believing in evolution, or anything else.

ksil said...

"dozens of people each day"

bahahahhahahah!!!

i have seen you write that you would throw your kids out if the expressed skeptical viewes or were homosexual

Michael said...

Schizophrenia is largely a genetic illness, JP. I don't think your adopted parents purported abuse was primarily responsible for this.

Your brother's inability to hold down a job is almost certaintly related to that unfortunate illness.

I still think your behavior to that Righteous Rasha girl, as rotten as she is, was inappropriate, and certainly not sanctioned by halachah.

jewish philosopher said...

"I think that blogs in general don't change people's deeply held religious or political opinions. People read what they want to read."

It's no different than other the books and lectures about politics and religion.

However I would say that generally people who are trying to make people worse (drug dealers, let's say) often have more lasting influence on more people than someone who is trying to make people better (let's say a personal trainer in a gym).

Even many big, famous drug rehab centers have very small long term success rates. Same is true of diets.

Yad L'achim of course helps more people than I do, with dozens of full time workers and a substantial budget.

"i have seen you write that you would throw your kids out"

You have to stop smoking pot while blogging. Lol 

jewish philosopher said...

"Schizophrenia is largely a genetic illness, JP"

It's about 50% genes, 50% environment.

"I still think your behavior to that Righteous Rasha girl, as rotten as she is, was inappropriate, and certainly not sanctioned by halachah. "

My intention was to emphasize how low and disgusting her true motives are. I don't see a problem and I'd do it again.

Alex said...

"To the best of my knowledge it does. Few ultra-orthodox rabbis have Internet access, however those who I have discussed my blog with have no problem with it. Why would they? I am merely doing what Yad Lachim does."

You might be, very loosely speaking, doing what Yad L'achim does, but you are not _saying_ what Yad L'achim would _say_.

ksil said...

"You have to stop smoking pot while blogging"

is weed worse than alcohol? i see many many many frum jews drink alcohol

just trying to stay within the confines of daas torah

Larry Tanner said...

This,

"Every "Jewish skeptic" writing on the Internet is no different than a "Messianic Jew" handing out pamphlets at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Surely, everything possible must be done to discourage these scoundrels who seek to corrupt their fellow Jews."

Correct.

We skeptics offer no messiah and no promise of eternal life, so we're different from the messys in that regard. But we by and large don't mind if people come to agree with us.

Good luck in discouraging us. I don't see it happening. You may instead want to try discouraging our fellow Jews from interacting with skeptics.

L.

jewish philosopher said...

"is weed worse than alcohol"

I see; you're drunk.

"I don't see it happening."
 
How would you see it? The fact that enraged heretics constantly what to silence me says something.

http://abandoningeden.blogspot.com/2011/07/atheists-moral-code.html?showComment=1311643444296#c8732247935586425844

Jeff said...

The proof is in the pudding, JP.

Do you have anything to show for your efforts, other than the self-destructive effects you mentioned?

Have you discredited atheism to a single breathing soul?

jewish philosopher said...

Actually, making the attempt is in and of itself all that's important. The Talmud Shabbos 55a relates how even the righteous were killed by God because they neglected to rebuke the wicked, even though in fact the wicked would have ignored them:

R. Aha b. R. Hanina said: Never did a favourable word  go forth from the mouth of the Holy One, blessed be He, of which He retracted for evil, save the following, where it is written, And the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark [taw] upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof, etc.  The Holy One, blessed be He, said to Gabriel, Go and set a taw of ink upon the foreheads of the righteous, that the destroying angels may have no power over them; and a taw of blood upon the foreheads of the wicked, that the destroying angels may have power over them. Said the Attribute of Justice before the Holy One, blessed be He, 'Sovereign of the Universe! Wherein are these different from those?' 'Those are completely righteous men, while these are completely wicked,' replied He. 'Sovereign of the Universe!' it continued, 'they had the power to protest but did not.' 'It was fully known to them that had they protested they would not have heeded them.'  'Sovereign of the Universe!' said he, 'If it was revealed to Thee, was it revealed to them?' Hence it is written, [Slay utterly] the old man, the young and the maiden, and little children and women; but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my Sanctuary [mikdashi]. Then they began at the elders which were before the house. R. Joseph recited: Read not mikdashi but mekuddashay [my sanctified ones]: this refers to the people who fulfilled the Torah from alef to taw.

http://www.come-and-hear.com/shabbath/shabbath_55.html 

JRKmommy said...

You were fired for using your employer's computer and internet connection to make some pretty vile comments of a violent and sexual nature to a young woman.

This is not something that Judaism requires.

Despite repeated requests, you have not identified any living rabbi who has read those posted comments and supported them.

There are a number of successful Jewish organizations that reach out to Jews who are unobservant, "off the derech" or involved with cults or missionaries. They have a proven track record of success. None of them use your methods.

jewish philosopher said...

"You were fired for using your employer's computer and internet connection to make some pretty vile comments of a violent and sexual nature to a young woman."

I assume you're referring to this.

http://righteousrasha.blogspot.com/2009/10/jew-president-two-patriots.html?showComment=1256243934760#c7552580075635131195

So young. So innocent! And a woman. So helpless! Dear me! How could I be so ungentlemanly! The fact that a few lines later she's cursing like a sailor and threatening to shoot me I suppose must be overlooked. After all, she's only a woman - fragile, unstable! And only 21 - just a child!

Anyway, EmblemHealth's human resources department told me exactly the following: I was "terminated due to various violations of company policies specifically: Unacceptable Use of the Internet E-Mail System." That's alL, not a word more or less.

Also, EmblemHealth never made any effort to respond to or contact the Schreibers, so apparently the company was not concerned about their complaint.

I wonder why you are embellishing on this.

"Despite repeated requests, you have not identified any living rabbi who has read those posted comments and supported them."

This blog as a rule follows the teachings of the Lithuanian rabbinical seminaries of the 1920s and 1930s. Specifically, I have been very influenced by the recordings and writings of Rabbi Avigdor Miller obm.

Name a living rabbi who reads your posts and comments and supports them.

"None of them use your methods."

Allegedly, Yad L'achim can get quite aggressive in their anti-missionary work.

"JERUSALEM, July 2 (CDN) — A hard-line Jewish ultra-Orthodox group in Israel that singles out Jewish Christians known as Messianic Jews for harassment and abuse is taking aim at a couple it claims is manipulating minors into becoming Christians.

The group, Yad L’Achim, this week placed leaflets around the home of Serge and Naama Kogen, 37 and 42 respectively, in Mevasseret Zion, a suburban community located just west of Jerusalem. The same week someone took out a full-page ad in a local newspaper giving the couple’s address and telling residents they were part of a missionary group “targeting” the community. The Kogens are native Israelis and hence not part of any missionary group.

The advertisement invited the public to a protest planned against the Kogens, and on Sunday (June 26), about 20 of the group’s supporters demonstrated outside the couple’s home, where they denounced them over megaphones for 90 minutes."

http://maozisraelblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/more-persecution-of-messianic-jews-in.html

Organizing a protest with 20 people and megaphones for 90 minutes on the street in front Tova Schreiber's home, denouncing her as a missionary, which she is as much as this israeli couple, would really be over the top! I hope someday Yad L'achim comes to the US!!

Abe said...

Why are you so angry at Tova Schreiber?
Tova was simply on a mission from god to consumate his divine temperment. Its very apparant that god hates you and she's just the instrument of HIS will. Remember when god recently killed your dog? God was sending you another message!
Why fight the inevitable -- bend your obstinance to god's will. A clothesline knot is effective, but cyanide is lot quicker.

jewish philosopher said...

Abe, your example alone reminds of why atheism must be eliminated.

Alex said...

JRKMommy, thanks for reiterating my challenge.

"Despite repeated requests, you have not identified any __LIVING__ rabbi who has read those posted comments and supported them."

JP's REPLY: "This blog as a rule follows the teachings of the Lithuanian rabbinical seminaries of the 1920s and 1930s."

So, it shouldn't be so hard for you (no, not your readers, but you) find a living a rabbi who will assess just how much your blog accords with those teachings.


"Specifically, I have been very influenced by the recordings and writings of Rabbi Avigdor Miller obm."

You must have missed the part where the rabbi must be living. I, too, was very influenced by Rabbi Miller's recordings and teachings. His views on 99% of Torah and Jewish living were incredible. His explanation of Chovos HaLevovos was so clear and inspiring.

This was the closest JP has come to openly admitting that the answer to our question is: "NONE".

We still await...

jewish philosopher said...

"We still await"

I await any blogger to tell me which living rabbi reads his posted comments and supports them. In fact, I await for you and JRKMommy to just tell me who exactly you are.

jewish philosopher said...

Just incidentally, even if I would find a prominent rabbi who would have the time to read and screen every word of my Internet posts and comments (something not practical anyway), I would not be able to post his name, because he would then be subject to endless harassing phone calls and emails from every Jewish drop out bum in the world. I know this because that's what happened to a certain rabbi who I used to list on my blog as being the rabbi of my synagogue; I had to take his name off.

The Yad L'achim website also does not mention the names of endorsing rabbis, I assume for similar reasons.

Alex said...

"Just incidentally, even if I would find a prominent rabbi who would have the time to read and screen _every_ word of my Internet posts and comments... "

"Every." Smooth one, JP.

Jeff said...

"Surely, everything possible must be done to discourage these scoundrels who seek to corrupt their fellow Jews."

It is not us who "corrupt" fellow Jews. It is life itself--opening one's eyes to science, morality, philosophy, and general rational thinking.

No "scoundrel" turned me from being a believer to a skeptic.

Abe said...

"jewish philosopher said...
Abe, your example alone reminds of why atheism must be eliminated."

Apparantly not. Evidently, god is more interested in eliminating you than me or any athesists that I know. It appears that god is pursuing that ancient greek adage -quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius- whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.
It sure looks like he's more than halfway there. You're not dead yet, but insanity is creeping up on you daily. I wouldn't be surprised if your family has you committed, in an attempt to forstall god's divine providence.

Anonymous said...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/thousands-attend-funeral-of-slain-kabbalah-rabbi-1.375954

Another heredi loses it;

Can't say he was a closet atheist.

jewish philosopher said...

"Smooth one, JP"

It's a little bit funny that anonymous bloggers who won't even tell me who they are criticize me for not having a well known rabbi review my every comment and tell them who that rabbi is - I suppose so they can harass him too. Of course I'm going to do that.

"It is life itself--opening one's eyes to science, morality, philosophy, and general rational thinking."

No, it's actually hormones, as I've explained.

http://jewishphilosopher.blogspot.com/2008/07/jewish-skeptics-and-sex.html

But the scoundrels help too.

"god is more interested in eliminating you than me or any athesists that I know"

I'm sure anything that happens will support your point of view. If atheists are successful, that's proves there is no God. And when atheists are thrown into gas chambers, that also proves there is not God since how could He be so cruel?

"Can't say he was a closet atheist."

I could say he was a schizophrenic.

http://www.vosizneias.com/88303/2011/07/29/jerusalem-suspect-in-abu-chatzeira-murder-made-reference-to-moshiach-ben-ben-yosef/

http://www.schizophrenia.com/family/viol.htm#statistics

Alex said...

"...review my _every_ comment"

Astounding! You did it again. Do you realize you keep doing that, sticking in that word "every"?

jewish philosopher said...

so?

Bret “Ginx” Alan said...

Your pain is hilarious.

Alex said...

It's like the time I asked my son to straighten his room. He responded with such a whine: "Do you expect me to clean the _entire_ room?" Tell me, why do you think he added the word "entire"? I never intended him to clean the _entire_ room. That would be too much to ask.

jewish philosopher said...

That seems to be JRKMommy's problem. She keeps demanding to know exactly who is reviewing and approving my every post and comment. In the meantime, I have no idea who she is let alone who is reviewing her comments.

jewish philosopher said...

"Your pain is hilarious."

Naturally; many atheists are sadists.

Jeff said...

Does anybody see the big irony here? JP likes to use straw man arguments left and right about apostates, atheists and skeptics.

But JP himself is the biggest straw man of them all! Do you realize that very few, if any, ultra-orthodox actually advocate his positions? I'm not talking about orthodox core faith, but rather his views atheists, apostates, homosexuals, afterlife and his proposed methods of coping with them.

So maybe its fun to attack him, but realize you're not really attacking orthodoxy per se.

Alex said...

Jeff, I totally hear you. I'm orthodox myself.

jewish philosopher said...

"Do you realize that very few, if any, ultra-orthodox actually advocate his positions?"

Have you commissioned a Gallup Poll? Do actually know anybody who lives in a major ultra-orthodox centers such as Bnei Brak, Williamsburg, Lakewood, New Square, etc?

I provide sources; I'm happy to hear from anyone, ultraorthodox rabbi or not, who disagrees.

Alex said...

"I'm happy to hear from anyone, ultraorthodox rabbi or not, who disagrees."

It goes without saying, Jeff, that this rabbi will have to read EVERY single post and EVERY single comment Right, JP?

jewish philosopher said...

I assume that spiritual giants will have an insatiable thirst for my wisdom.

JRKmommy said...

It's your blog, not mine.

In your post, you make yourself out to be a martyr and claim that you lost your job for promoting Judaism and opposing atheism. In fact, you yourself just stated that you lost your job for improper use of your employer's internet.

I specifically asked if any other living rabbi had read THOSE comments, referring to the exact comments on Tova's blog which prompted her and her father to approach your employer. It would only take one simple email to another rabbi, providing the links and asking for his feedback.

BTW - the words in my posts are my own. That said, my views that (1) it is essential for us as Jews to act like mentches and treat others with respect, and (2) that the requirements for ahavas yisroel (love of one's fellow Jew) applies to ALL Jews without preconditions come from Rabbi Shmuel Spiro and Rabbi Mendel Kaplan. Both are living, frum rabbis.

JRKmommy said...

Correction: it's Spero, not Spiro.

jewish philosopher said...

"you make yourself out to be a martyr and claim that you lost your job for promoting Judaism and opposing atheism"

Well, I'll put it like this. I do know that I was told that I was fired due to various violations of company policies specifically: Unacceptable Use of the Internet E-Mail System. I also know of no one else, in 15 years I worked for that company, being fired for that reason. I also believe that the Schreiber family, the supposed victims of my unacceptable use, were never contacted by my employer, even just to acknowledge that their complaint had been received and would be looked into. I think it's obvious that antisemitism was the real motivation for my firing; however you are welcome to make your own guesses.

The CEO happens to be black. If I would be black and my blog would be titled

The African American Philosopher: The purpose of this blog is to promote civil rights and to critique other ideologies, in particular racism, promoting racial equality; fighting bigotry.

And my "unacceptable use" had involved some sharply critical remarks on the white supremacist site  stormfront.org,  

Would I have been fired? I guess we'll never really know however I have an opinion.

"that the requirements for ahavas yisroel (love of one's fellow Jew) applies to ALL Jews without preconditions come from Rabbi Shmuel Spiro and Rabbi Mendel Kaplan. Both are living, frum rabbis"

Great, but I don't know of any reason to believe that they are more distinguished Talmudic scholars than I am. I also would be curious to know their opinion of Yad l'achim's counter missionary work.

http://maozisraelblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/more-persecution-of-messianic-jews-in.html

JRKmommy said...

Presumably, as an Orthodox Jew, you wore a yarmulka to the interview when you were hired, and continued to wear it to work for 15 years. You would have also informed your employer that you were not available to work on Saturdays, that you had to leave work early on Fridays during the fall and winter, and that you couldn't work on major Jewish holidays. In short, your employer would have known full well that you were Jewish, and yet they hired you and kept you employed for 15 years.

My own guess is that no company CEO likes getting reports that an employee is using the company IP address to post lewd questions to women. I would further speculate that no company really wants to see its policies blatantly violated. Finally, I would guess that most employers would prefer that their employees actually work, rather than spent too much time online, and it is possible that your employer may have check internal records after receiving the complaint to check just how much time was wasted. My guess is that the religious aspect wasn't really a consideration, and that an employee who had done the same thing to a Christian or Muslim "heretic" would have been treated the same way.

Yad L'Achim is an Israeli organization. I had never heard of them previously, and have no reason to believe that either Rabbi Kaplan or Rabbi Spero are familiar with their work. I can confirm that Rabbi Kaplan has welcomed Rabbi Michael Skobac, who has worked with Jews for Judaism, to speak at our shul.

Are you a distinguished Talmudic scholar? Have you progressed beyond the basic smicha to teach in a respected yeshiva, write any significant halachic work, or become a posek or dayan?

In any event, your own stated goal is to promote Judaism and oppose atheism. Both rabbis that I mentioned have experienced significantly more success with their methods than you have with yours.

jewish philosopher said...

"In short, your employer would have known full well that you were Jewish, and yet they hired you and kept you employed for 15 years."

Emblemhealth is a company with about 5,000 employees. The CEO was not involved in my hiring process and he would never had known I existed had an anti-orthodox Jew not emailed him.

"My own guess is that no company CEO likes getting reports that an employee is using the company IP address to post lewd questions to women."

If he was so concerned about the company's name being tarnished then he would have had a letter of apology drafted to the Schreibers, signed by himself personally, assuring them that they had his deepest sympathy and that the company had no tolerance for such behavior and I had been terminated. Instead, their email was not even acknowledged.

See this comment posted by Ronnie Schreiber on 10/30/2009: 
"Posting on your employer's dime again? Isn't that g'neivah?"
 
http://righteousrasha.blogspot.com/2009/10/bitch-is-back.html?showComment=1256925739232#c401218904028935195 

Obviously unknown to him, I had already been fired.

Apparently Anthony Watson could not care less about the silly complaint of some nobody in Detroit.

"I would further speculate that no company really wants to see its policies blatantly violated."

But no one else was ever fired for this one. Just me, to my knowledge.

"Finally, I would guess that most employers would prefer that their employees actually work, rather than spent too much time online, and it is possible that your employer may have check internal records after receiving the complaint to check just how much time was wasted."

Well, I was there 15 years, with repeated raises and promotions and no complaints about my work. Funny no one noticed a problem until Watson saw my blog.

"Are you a distinguished Talmudic scholar?"

Are they? With all due respect, and I mean that seriously, they appear to be rabbis of two small synagogues in Toronto. I doubt very many people outside Toronto are aware of them.

"Both rabbis that I mentioned have experienced significantly more success with their methods than you have with yours."

Would they using just about an hour a day and no financing? How do you know that? A few dozen people a day read my blog (I get several hundred hits, but a few dozen I believe actually read a few articles). As you can see some people leave positive comments and several people have contacted me off line to tell me how much I have helped them.

JRKmommy said...

There is no magic money tree for either rabbi.

It's true, however, that both spend considerably more than 1 hour per day on their work. Demonstrating ahavas yisroel takes considerable effort.

jewish philosopher said...

Hating missionaries (including someone like Tova Scheriber) is part of loving Jews.

Alex said...

Is hating one's own atheist (not militant atheist, just average atheist) mom and dad a mitzvah nowadays?

jewish philosopher said...

Why not?

http://jewishphilosopher.blogspot.com/2007/12/good-hatred.html

Der Shygetz said...

BS"D

Stein, if Rav Miller ZYA were alive, he would tell you (and his other so-called farbrente chossid Yehuda Levin) to get medical help, and he would find you a top doctor and pay for the care out of his own pocket if need be.

Do you think Rav Miller ZYA would have ever asked a girl who is off the derech: "Do you want cock?"

How dare you compare yourself to Yad leAchim volunteers? You are a puny nut who rants online and makes a bigger chilul Hashem than even the Neturei Karta nutcases.

Do you think the Yad leAchim people ask missionaries: "Do you want cock?"

I would like to see proof of the authenticity of your gerus. What kind of rabbonim would be megayer someone like you? My feeling is you are an anti-Semite who is out to make us all look bad.

jewish philosopher said...

"Do you think Rav Miller ZYA would have ever asked a girl who is off the derech: "Do you want cock?""

I don't know. Maybe.

I did it

http://righteousrasha.blogspot.com/2009/10/jew-president-two-patriots.html?showComment=1256243934760#c7552580075635131195

for a very specific reason, to emphasize how low and disgusting the motive is which is causing Schreiber to become a traitor against the Almighty God and His Holy Torah.

I don't regret it, I'm proud of it, I'll do it again. All these bums and lowlifes who claim to be following science and reason are just following their genitals.

By the way, have you killed any babies today?

http://jewishphilosopher.blogspot.com/2011/08/baby-killer-and-secret-atheist.html

Der Shygetz said...

"Do you think Rav Miller ZYA would have ever asked a girl who is off the derech: "Do you want cock?""

I don't know. Maybe.
---
Not maybe. Never in a million years! Rav Miller ZYA was sharp-tongued at times but nivul peh was far, far beneath him.

Stein, if you could afford a ticket to to visit Rav Miller ZYA's kever, I would advise you to do so POST HASTE and beg mechila. However, I doubt welfare pays for tickets to Eretz Yisroel.

Do you think Rav Miller ZYA ever uttered so low a word or had such thoughts about even the most misguided fellow Jew? You are mocking your supposed teacher!

I am not an atheist. Far from it. You, on the other hand, need both rabbinic and psychological guidance - and FAST!

jewish philosopher said...

Check out Ezekiel 16:25

כה  אֶל-כָּל-רֹאשׁ דֶּרֶךְ, בָּנִית רָמָתֵךְ,
וַתְּתַעֲבִי אֶת-יָפְיֵךְ, וַתְּפַשְּׂקִי אֶת-רַגְלַיִךְ לְכָל-עוֹבֵר; וַתַּרְבִּי, אֶת-תזנותך (תַּזְנוּתָיִךְ).2

Thou hast built thy lofty place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty an abomination, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy harlotries.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1216.htm#25

I don't regret it, I'm proud of it, I'll do it again. All these bums and lowlifes who claim to be following science and reason are just following their genitals.