Thursday, August 21, 2008

The Fruit of Pornography


[Ted Bundy, the first person called a "serial killer", in an interview with psychologist James Dobson just before he was executed on January 24, 1989. Watch beginning at 5:50 in the video clip.]

I don't think that Mr. Bundy was a very nice person to begin with, however I would imagine that pornography can only make a good person bad and a bad person even worse.

Considering the proliferation of pornography through the Internet today, making it infinitely more available than it was in the 1950’s when Bundy was growing up, we can only guess what the results may be.

It is interesting to note that apparently as pornography has become more popular, so has stranger-to-stranger homicide, which the police are seldom able to solve. However I guess "freedom of expression" takes precedence over everything.

21 comments:

Unmolested Altar Boy said...

Most serial killers have also read the the old testament/Torah as well. Dare I ask for empirical evidence that the stories of Lott offering his daughters to a rapist laden mob, the rape/ murder of the Levite's concubine, and let us not forget the keeping of virgin women for your victorious Hebrew soldiers' enjoyment did not play a part in motivating their crimes?

Phil Sumpter said...

I'm totally with you on the danger of this stuff. I posted a link to a British documentary here which looks at porographic addiction amongst teenagers. I have posted another clip here, in which a porn-producer turned pastor talks about his experiences.

I'm glad you are highlighting this issue, as it is a secrete poison that is contaminating our congregations (church or synagogue) and which no one is willing to talk about out of fear or shame.

jewish philosopher said...

Phil thanks for your support.

Unmolested, do you have any evidence of modern day criminals being motivated by the Torah? There may be a lot more evidence of people not committing crimes thanks to the Torah. Need I remind you that the Twelve Step programs require a belief in God, something that originated in the Torah? Sometimes I think that if you had been molested, it might have knocked a little sense into you.

What I am suggesting is that the same laws that we have today in the United States prohibiting child pornography should be extended to include the same types of media even if the actors\models are adults. Doing so would probably decrease significantly the number of murders, rapes, beatings and divorces. Even if it cannot absolutely be proven that this will be the case, I believe that the burden of proof that pornography is harmless should fall on the pornographers, just like the burden of proof that a drug is safe falls on the pharmaceutical company.

Phil Sumpter said...

Sodom and Gomorrah are held up as examples of how not to behave. I'm not sure how the Bible can at the same time be seen to sanction this kind of behaviour.

jewish philosopher said...

Unmolested was reading Hustler magazine but thought it was the Bible. Common mistake.

bankman said...

I would just point out that countries like Iran, Iraq or Afganistan BAN pornography - those countries are by no means role models when it comes to living an ethical life. In fact, I would submit that a suicide bomber may want to live instead of die if he were allowed some physical pleasure - or even if he knew it existed!! as howard stern says, give 'em porn and they'll stop blowing each other up.

tough to argue with that logic.

James F. Elliott said...

It is interesting to note that apparently as pornography has become more popular, so has stranger-to-stranger homicide,

Please please please take a statistics class.

Anonymous said...

The proliferation of porn on the Internet appears to have had an effect on the incidence of rape-by decreasing it.

What is your response to that?

We had a big drop in overall crime in the United States in the 1990s: crime did increase for part of the 2000s (though it didn't get anywhere near what it had been) and then decreased again. How does that fit into your argument?

Herr Unbekannt

DrJ said...

I agree with the basic thrust (no pun intended) of this post. Pornography is a negative and distructive phenomenon, and the internet has greatly increased its availability. In Western societies the ability to limit bad things like this is sacrificed on the alter of free speech and individual rights. As they say, Democracy is the second worst political system, the worst being everything else.

Shaya Getzel said...

Is it me, or did JP forget to mention that James Dobson is a radical, extremist, evangelical christian, who has said among other zingers "Sponge Bob promotes homosexuality".

Shaya Getzel said...

Facts are a bitch, read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/health/25drin.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1219568422-cAlgOlwmtbM+yekwHJocEQ

jewish philosopher said...

The idea that pornography prevents rape seems to be based on one article written by an economist. I wonder what psychologists and rapists themselves have to say.

Crime in America depends on the strictness of the criminal justice system. Harsher punishments seems to mean less crime.

A law against porn would not contradict democracy any more than our laws against prostitution do.

Shaya Getzel said...

Laws against prostitution DO contradict democracy.

jewish philosopher said...

Then there are no democracies, because there is no place in the world which does not limit prostitution.

Anonymous said...

The idea that pornography prevents rape seems to be based on one article written by an economist. I wonder what psychologists and rapists themselves have to say.

How about we ask statisticians? Whether or not one economist is advancing this idea (for the record, he isn't the only one-he's just about the only one who has the guts to put it in print), the stats would refute him, if wrong.

Can you speak to the statistics he's referring to?

Herr Unbekannt

Shaya Getzel said...

Prostitution is legal -albeit regulated- in England, Switzerland, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Australia, Germany, Sweden, Philippines, and Nevada.

david said...

Why on earth do laws against prostitution limit democracy any more than any other laws. In fact if a government were to be elected with a policy of restricting prostitution only then abolish all restrictions that would be a case where the lack of law contradicts democracy.

The only way that allowing freedom of prostitution is democratic is if an elected government had taken those laws to the electorate and a majority of people supported them. After all that is the essence of democracy, a majority decision not I should be allowed to do as I please.

jewish philosopher said...

About this finding ""More Net access, less rape." A 10 percent increase in Net access yields about a 7.3 percent decrease in reported rapes."

Could this be simply because more Net access means girls are sitting in their bedrooms chatting on Myspace instead of being out on the street where they get raped?

The Raz said...

If you had to pick your poison what’s worse

1) atheism/doubt
2) pornography
3) or drugs

Granted, you argue all are bad, but I am asking what order you feel are the most dangerous? Actually, what is your full list from most spiritually harmful to the least? What the biggest danger to the community?

jewish philosopher said...

Atheism. It opens the door to everything.

Anonymous said...

A refect study indicated that one out of four teenage girsl in America has a STD. And many high schools have day care centers to accommodate the children of teenage mothers.