Friday, July 21, 2006

Two Interesting Quotes

“I once asked the eloquent and personable paleontologist Niles Eldredge whether he knew of any case in which the formation of a new species had ever been documented. I told him I’d be satisfied if his example were drawn from the laboratory, from the field, or from observations from the fossil record. He could muster only one good example: Theodosius Dobzhansky’s experiments with Drosophila, the fruit fly.”

“Symbiotic Planet” by Lynn Margulis page 7

According to evolutionists, billions of new species have evolved on earth yet only one case has ever been documented; a minor variant of the fruit fly produced artificially in a laboratory. All other speciation events have successfully succeeding in concealing themselves from human eyes.

“People who believe in God are happier than those who don’t. A study shows that the faithful are less likely to abuse drugs, commit crimes or kill themselves.”

“Some Dark Thought on Happiness” by Jennifer Senior (who is an atheist) in New York magazine 7/17/2006 page 30

According to atheists, the human mind has apparently evolved in such a way that we can only be happy if we believe in a fantasy. Is that reasonable?

11 comments:

Vile Blasphemer said...

Of course it's reasonable.

Cameron said...

“People who believe in God are happier than those who don’t. A study shows that the faithful are less likely to abuse drugs, commit crimes or kill themselves.”

Totally False.

"Cross-National Correlations of Quantifiable Societal Health with Popular Religiosity and Secularism in the Prosperous Democracies"
Journal of Religion and Society (http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html)

"It reveals clear correlations between various indicators of social strife and religiosity, showing that whether religion causes social strife or not, it certainly does not prevent it.
The author of the study, Gregory S. Paul, writes that it is a “first, brief look at an important subject that has been almost entirely neglected by social scientists…not an attempt to present a definitive study that establishes cause versus effect between religiosity, secularism and societal health.” However, the study does show a direct correlation between religiosity and dysfunctionality, which if nothing else, disproves the widespread belief that religiosity is beneficial, that secularism is detrimental, and that widespread acceptance of evolution is harmful."

- Secondly, you mention that your Mr. Edredge named an example of speciation (the fruit fly). So it looks like you have your expert evidence then doesn't it?

Also consider 'ring species' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species

Where groups are related to their neighbours genetically and can interbreed, but when you get out to the ends of the ring the populations won't interbreed with each other - often not even recognizing each other as being the same species. If a disaster were to knock out a portion of the ring and prevent interbreeding between groups you would have another example of speciation.

Cameron

jewish philosopher said...

The connecting between religion and recovery from depression is well documented.

And I don't see how you are giving more examples of documented speciation events.

Avi said...

The connecting between religion and recovery from depression is well documented.


Whatever you look for your going to find. If you think that religion is better you will find that. If you think that religion is not better, then you can find that also. By the way there are many Christians and catholics and Muslims and Hindus that are also very happy. Even though you say that they dont know the truth. Like we Jews know everything.

Anonymous said...

You can see species formation actually going on today. The classic example is the Herring Gull and Less Black Backed Gull. In Europe we have them as two species, in the US there is a single intermediate form.

Case proved, so you can relax and stop worrying. It does not make the bible untrue, you just have to be careful with translations.

Anonymous said...

Religious people are less likely to abuse drugs. Nice idea but in my experience religious people are almost as likely as anyone else to abuse tobacco, alcohol and food.

jewish philosopher said...

Even the greatest religious fanatic will agree that variations happen. Take the Great Dane and the Chihuahua, for example. The issue is: Can new organs and limbs appear spontaneously in nature? I don't think so.

jewish philosopher said...

There are very few Orthodox Jewish alcoholics either and probably no more than 5% smoke.

Anonymous said...

Actually, new organs and limbs can appear spontaneously in offspring. It does not happen often but basic body-form is determined by just a few genes so a single mutation can have a dramatic effect.

A Man said...

wait a second, what about human breeding like the dachshund isn't that evolution?

jewish philosopher said...

It's not a new species.